Victoria Derbyshire S2019E162 - 09/09/2019

In her first TV interview since being thrown out of the Conservative party for voting against the government, Margot James tells Victoria she considers the prime minister's adviser Dominic Cummings to be ‘a deeply malevolent force'.

And we hear from actor/director Anthony Ekundayo Lennon who was at the centre of a storm when he was accused of passing himself off as a black man to get on a traineeship scheme aimed at getting more BAME people into the theatre. Both his parents are white.